operating there.
surprise - it is SuE DISC. the only Western power opposing sanctions.
makes superprofits from African sweat and blood. In 1983 an African in manufacturing THE ANC (African National the largest, and most important, organisation engaged in the struggle against the apartheid regime in Prior to the widely publicised meeting between the ANC South African business leaders in Zambia last week BO, president of the ANC, gave an interview to Newsweek magazine outlining the organisation's goals.
How important is the current crisis in South Africa to the ANC? It represents a heightened got 360 rands compared 1,429 a white worker. In mining it is The four million whites enjoy one of the highest living standards in Oliver Tambo the ATTICAD starvation, world. For the 19m people Dover homelessness, disease and social deprivation of every kind are the norm.
defends, even coss moe mo Da. baric repression and denial of the most baisc numar rights. 700 Africans have been killed and over 2,000 has been almost helpless over the last year. It na. failed to end the struggle.
weapons?
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alone, best But : hour those pect uS give them bast Simonstown. Black people nighty have no conndence that Labour, when in of fice again, will take the necessary steps complicity with this barbarc regime. has to ensure it takes the first step now release Nelson Mandela? I believe they will have to, « don't knov WHICH We have to put enough pressure on the regime toI inem to see lial Il Is their interest release him. " think Britain America could be very imDUl Lall achieving his release, but they won't use their leverage, perhaps because they think it is not in their interest.
Is there still time to negotiate a gradual transition to majority rule? I think we would be less than natural to demand anything less than to be tree now. Nobody wants to endure pain for a mo. ment longer than they have to. There is no ques tion of a gradual transition to maiontv rue, to make l crime continue The only negotiations we would see would be about the mechanisms for an im mediate change to majori. ty rule.
When will that come? In months, , years, decades? This will be just a guess. It certainly won't decades, and I'm not even sure it will be one decade. We will aim for less than a decade.
Do think the American believes that change is al hand?
I think the administration finds it very difficult to ac conagement hand i constructive •cleve it rulercare ple are far ahead of their understanding what is going on, and we hope administra tion will take heed of the democratic will the people tuitical break their alliance with this racist regime.
Do you support sanctions South Africa?
Your critics say blacks wil be the first to be hurt. If our people are preparec to die and go to jail to enc apartheid, you really think they will worry tha which Sancuous know hurt the regime, wil cause them l a illlie more nunger and lose some di them the miserable jobs LICY are now allowed to have?